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KTM Brake Bleeding

Post by Rooster on Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:58 pm

Some of you may have notices that after fluid replacement on Brembro (KTM) Calibers, they can be a bit full of KAK.

I recommend following the below:

Brembo recommended brake bleeding procedures:

1. Fill the master cylinder reservoir with fresh, specified brake fluid from a sealed container. Operate the master cylinder lever SLOWLY several times to fill the brake circuits and begin to expel air from them.


2. Connect a transparent plastic tube (of appropriate bore for a leakproof fit) to the caliper bleed valve, placing the free end in a brake-fluid-proof container. Position the bleed tube so that it rises above the bleed valve for a few inches (to allow a fluid head above the bleed valve exit) before descending into the container.


3. Operate the brake lever 3 - 4 times, keeping it pulled in on the last stroke. Loosen the caliper bleed valve enough to allow fluid and purged air (seen as bubbles in the fluid) to enter the attached tube. Close the bleed valve. Repeat this operation several times while maintaining a sufficient fluid level in the master cylinder reservoir. With each cycle of bleeding, the lever should meet with more resistance, indicating that the air is being removed from the system (there should also be progressively fewer bubbles in the purged fluid in the tube). If conditions are ideal, satisfactory lever resistance should be attained at the point no more bubbles are observable in the purged fluid in the tube.


4. Occasionally, a system will still have "spongy" lever even though no more air can be found in the purged fluid. This indicates air is still trapped in some part or parts of the circuit, and must be removed. The following methods will help to free the trapped air and complete the bleeding process:


(a) Making sure the reservoir is filled and capped, lean the machine so the reservoir is positioned above the master cylinder outlet, then give the lever several short, quick strokes. This gives the residual air a less- interrupted upwards path towards the reservoir, and out of the line. Return the machine to the upright position, rap the calipers sharply with a plastic hammer or screwdriver handle, manipulate the flex lines and repeat. If this doesn't quite correct the problem, let the machine sit overnight and repeat the next day. In most cases, this should give an air-free final bleed. Be sure the reservoir is filled to the correct level after final bleeding.


(b) In the case of master cylinders mounted on clip-on bars with a steep angle, it may be difficult to lean the machine sufficiently to position the reservoir above the master cylinder outlet. In this case it will be necessary to bleed the fitting at the high point (i.e. the master cylinder outlet). If your machine is fitted with a bleed-type banjo bolt (see FD ), this is a simple process of fitting the plastic tube and bleeding in the normal manner. If not, this can still be accomplished by bleeding the standard fitting with some basic precautions: (1) Be sure the sealing washers for the fitting are fresh (2) Position an absorbent rag or towel around the fitting to prevent expelled brake fluid from contacting painted finishes (3) Pull the brembo master cylinder lever in fully and hold (4) Loosen the fitting just enough to allow fluid (containing any trapped air) to escape onto the rag (5) Retighten fitting, release lever, remove rag, check brake action (6) Recheck reservoir for correct level and fill if necessary.


(As many machines now use clip-on master-cylinder fitment, this procedure for bleeding the high point of the system can be useful in firming lever response on machines which seem to have had a "soft" lever from new. Although an initial system setup bleed may yield nothing but fluid at the calipers, unbled air at a high point outlet of a master cylinder is often overlooked if for no other reason than minute residual air bubbles will, with time and use, loosen and rise, coalescing at the high point into a large bubble that will defy any attempt to bleed it out at the calipers. Since fluid from the reservoir will simply flow underneath an air bubble at a high point during a bleeding process, a resultant "spongy" lever is often incorrectly blamed on the braking components rather than an incomplete bleeding procedure).


(c) In particularly troublesome cases another method may be used in conjunction with method (b)-


(1) Remove caliper from disc


(2) Fit bleed tube, container and check reservoir level as in C1 & C2


(3) Open bleed valve


(4) Slowly push the caliper pistons their fully retracted positions


(5) Close the bleed valve


(6) Refit caliper to disc


(7) Operate master cylinder to extend pads to disc


(Cool Remove caliper from disc


(9) Remove master cylinder reservoir cap


(10) slowly push the caliper pistons to their fully retracted positions, taking care that the fluid in the master cylinder reservoir does not overflow onto a painted surface


(11) Refit caliper to disc


(12) bleed master cylinder high point as in method C4(b)


(13) Check brake action, adjust reservoir level and recap.


(If the wheel/disc assembly is removed to perform this method, be sure that a plate or shim of the same thickness of the disc is inserted in place of the disc into the caliper not being bled-this is necessary to prevent accidental loss of pistons and fluid during this process).

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Re: KTM Brake Bleeding

Post by Rooster on Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:17 pm

Heres a pretty good demo:


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